Saturday, October 8th, 2005
4:25 pm - Idle Thought...  
...about the Stargate movie. (Which is on right now, and I generally watch the beginning when I can. I don't care much for the rest of the film, but I like the figuring out part.) Why exactly did they need Daniel Jackson at the beginning? They'd already matched six of the figures on the cover stone to symbols on the gate, and they'd figured out how to get them to lock in. Katherine as much as said so when they fired up the gate after Daniel presented his analysis. It didn't really matter that they were constellations. They already knew they worked regardless of definition. All they had to do was try each of the remaining symbols with the first six to until the gate opened. They probably could have done that in an afternoon. (And of course have the V-8 moment when they realized the seventh symbol had been on the cover stone all along.) Don't get me wrong. It's nice to know why those particular symbols were chosen, and I can see why they would need him once they activated the gate, and found out that the symbols were different on Abydos. Just another movie nitpick.
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grime and livestockcofax7 on October 8th, 2005 - 08:45 pm
I think, although they don't make it clear, that they need to know *where* the gate address goes to, because of something about stellar drift. They don't have a dhd and they're doing their dialing by hand, and there's something about how the dhds automatically update. Of course, all of that is later-canon so I don't know that it actually applies here...
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DXMachinadxmachina on October 8th, 2005 - 09:01 pm
Yeah, certainly that's how they went in the series, but it seems in the movie like they started dialing the gate within minutes of Daniel's announcement, so no drift calculated. Remember Sam theorizing that the reason they were only able to dial up the Abydos gate originally was that it was close enough to Earth that stellar drift didn't matter. Even though in the movie, Abydos is in another galaxy on the other side of the known universe, which makes no sense since Earth at the time would have to be at the center of the known universe. Retcons and illogicality make my head hurt.

They certainly needed Daniel to get back from Abydos.

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DebetEsse: End of Timedebetesse on October 8th, 2005 - 09:01 pm
I disremember, were they planning on going through the gate? I mean, without the translation, would they have known what to expect, at all?

(This is without going into the later continuity, with the whole "Ernest goes through and doesn't come back")
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DXMachinadxmachina on October 8th, 2005 - 09:03 pm
They were always planning to go through. They sent a probe through, and discovered that the symbols on the Abydos gate were different from the Earth gate, so General West was going to abort the mission until Daniel volunteered to translate the symbols.
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DebetEssedebetesse on October 8th, 2005 - 09:48 pm
Ah. Yeah. Right. I remember that.

I have no idea.
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Katie M.katie_m on October 8th, 2005 - 11:37 pm
I've never been able to figure that out either.
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